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Comment on HP Slate 500 Tablet PC hands-on by piratesmvp

piratesmvp — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:05:34 +0000

@dookiex I’m not talking about your external Wacom tablet. I’m talking about devices like the HP tx and tm series, or the Toshiba, Dell, or Lenovo convertibles. Or, the classic HP Compaq TC1100. These are tablet pcs with Wacom touchscreens. So, you can actually see what you’re writing and a much smaller learning curve than those external tablets (I haven’t the patience to get used to the Wacom tablets in photoshop).

Comment on HP Slate 500 Tablet PC hands-on by piratesmvp

piratesmvp — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 00:17:53 +0000

@dookiex I don’t think so. If you look at interviews with Bill Gates and other top executives from a few years ago. You can see that Microsoft Research has been testing different types of touchscreen UIs for a few years now. And don’t forget that Steven Sinofsky basically saved Windows. Microsoft brought him in after Vista disappointed and Windows 7 was his brainchild. Now, he’s using that same innovation to come up with Windows 8. And Windows 8 RTM will be very different than the dev preview.

Comment on HP Slate 500 Tablet PC hands-on by dookiex

dookiex — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:53:56 +0000

@piratesmvp Pressure sensitive stylus input is only available on the Wacom tablet (Bamboo, Intuos) and the Cintiq. On a Windows tablet, that doesn’t exist unless you hook a Bamboo or Intuos up to it (or Cintiq of course). The Windows OS allows for thin line input from the stylus but that’s actually available on iOS as well (the key is building in line thickness options within the application, which many drawing and painting applications on iOS allows for, go check out samples).

Comment on HP Slate 500 Tablet PC hands-on by dookiex

dookiex — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:52:26 +0000

@piratesmvp If you actually looked at what they were experimenting on, it’s a far cry from what iOS is. They were going in a completely different direction. Just because they were testing touch does not mean that they had a good implementation of it. iOS is an excellent implementation of touch and it was a OS built around touch input as opposed to MS approach which is to have touch as a feature instead of designing and building for it. You really need to go back and research this better.

Comment on HP Slate 500 Tablet PC hands-on by piratesmvp

piratesmvp — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:29:08 +0000

@dookiex You’re wrong. This HP Slate 500 has an N-trig stylus which is pressure sensitive. The TC1100 supports pressure sensitivity since it has a wacom screen. As per HP spec sheet, “Battery-free, pressure sensitive pen for the ultimate writing experience”. Pressure sensitivity is in almost all Windows tablets that come with an active digitizer pen. If it’s not working for you, then it’s the software that’s not supporting it.

Comment on HP Slate 500 Tablet PC hands-on by piratesmvp

piratesmvp — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 22:29:25 +0000

@dookiex Again, you’re assuming that the final product will be identical to the developer preview. The final product will be totally different. Look at how Microsoft has already changed the start menu. they’ll keep making more changes as user feedback comes in, and the final release may be more fluid than you think. I’m not saying it will be, I’m just saying you can’t knock an OS for aspects that may or may not exist in the final release.

Comment on HP Slate 500 Tablet PC hands-on by dookiex

dookiex — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 21:37:38 +0000

@piratesmvp I admit that we haven’t throw Photoshop at it (if it has pressure sensitivity, PS should show it working) as this is strictly a enterprise product and thus a productivity machine. In Windows and the Office suite of products, this thing works pretty much the same that our Dell convertible tablet laptops works. Really though, you’re speculating through all this, we actually have one of the few on hand and had been testing it. Not sure why you are defending this so badly.

Comment on HP Slate 500 Tablet PC hands-on by piratesmvp

piratesmvp — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 20:41:51 +0000

@dookiex How do you know what direction they were going? Nobody knows what they testing except the execs and the employees who were working on the project. Given that Microsoft has been researching touch for a few years, it would make sense to assume that Windows 8 is the product of those years of research. That said, I’m not knocking iOS. I’m just answering your original question of why someone would buy this instead of Macbook air, and the answer is that this has touch and the Air does not.

Comment on HP Slate 500 Tablet PC hands-on by piratesmvp

piratesmvp — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 20:09:35 +0000

@dookiex I’m not defending anything, I’m just stating some facts. You asked at the beginning of our discussion why someone would buy this instead of a Macbook Air. Regardless of how you see this device, there are some people who would find touch usable for stuff like onenote. That’s the reason they would buy this device. They have their reasons for the same reason you have yours for not buying this tablet.

Comment on HP Slate 500 Tablet PC hands-on by dookiex

dookiex — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 19:24:47 +0000

@piratesmvp Again, if you actually had this device and used it, you will see that one very well should just use a laptop since going at it with just the stylus makes this a very hard machine to work with since the APPLICATIONS are designed around keyboard and mouse (I’m not even talking about this from a OS level). That’s going to be the problem initially for Windows 8, that majority of the applications will not have the Metro UI.